Comment. It is not obvious (unless you already know the tunnel length) whether the "100 m" and "5 km" scales refer to one ruler subdivision or to the whole length of the ruler. Also, it is not clear why the ruler subdivisions are of unequal lengths. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.83.10 (talk) 17:18, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for now as per scale comment from unsigned user. Is the whole bar supposed to represent 100m? Or just one of the segments of the bar? I suspect it's the whole bar, so why even have black and white segments? Mattximus (talk) 21:18, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
What I'm more worried about is that the vertical bar appears to be made of segments of varying sizes. Dividing the bar into segments is a convention (for example, on the 5km bar, it gives the user 1km easily); dividing it unevenly isn't. Also, the distance is usually put on top of the full bar, so that it stretches over more than one segment. (Correct me if I'm wrong on this) Adam Cuerden(talk)09:49, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Question Beautiful picture but are you sure this is correctly identified? I'm not a taxonomist, but take a look at [[1]] which is purported to be the same species. Could just be different lighting, wondering if someone can confirm. Mattximus (talk) 19:45, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I was looking at the fur colour on the head, seemed a bit different. But I suspect it's just a lighting issue. Still these butterflies look rather alike, here is a different species: [[2]].
Oppose. It's a lovely photograph, but are there really no extant telephone boxes that don't have obvious graffiti etched into their windows? (Perhaps one could argue that graffiti is a real and representative part of the urban environment, but could we at least choose an image where the graffiti doesn't obstruct our view of the telephone itself?) As a minor niggle, the reflection of the shrub in the lower left makes it appear that there is a hedge inside the booth (or perhaps, misleadingly, that the rear wall of the booth is windowed). One wonders if there isn't a better subject available at, for instance, File:Red Public Phone Boxes - Covent Garden, London, England - July 10, 2012 .JPG or File:K6 Goathland.JPG. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 02:52, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support - apologies if you're British, TenOfAllTrades, but the answer to is "are there really no extant telephone boxes that don't have obvious graffiti etched into their windows? " is almost certainly "no". There aren't many traditional red boxes left and they attract vandalism more than moths. There are niggles but none to my mind incompatible with FP. Grandiose(me, talk, contribs) 13:23, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
On the graffiti point, the question was somewhat rhetorical—both of the images I linked to in my comment appear to contain one or more graffiti-free boxes: the three background boxes in the Covent Garden image, and the sole box in the Goathland image. These are not difficult locations to access, and I found these boxes just by looking at a couple of the other images from our red telephone box article. Poking around the web a bit, one finds images like this one. (Again, it has the 'distracting reflection' niggle, but it's clean). Or this one. Or pehaps this one. Photos of telephone boxes aren't like photos of wildlife; we aren't confined to rare instances and fleeting sightings. We can and should expect the highest quality, and we can afford to be picky. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 14:01, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support It's a very nice image. I particularly like the background. The vandalism is unfortunate, but not a deal breaker in my opinion. If a better image is found at some point, it can replace this one. Rreagan007 (talk) 03:25, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Easy to shoot a better example of this. It's not difficult to do so and although they do attract vandalism, it certainly isn't impossible to find one that is clean. JFitch(talk)00:38, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support Although the image is below size criteria, all text is clearly legible, the only concern is bleed-through of the text from the back. Brandmeistertalk18:47, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There's a lot of text there- this isn't just a couple of words. A page scan from a book wouldn't be PD-text, so I'm not sure I agree that this could be. J Milburn (talk) 21:30, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think the copyright status of the source doesn't matter, it's about this particular image, which has no creative elements in itself (and as such no copyright may arise). Brandmeistertalk08:23, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Of course the copyright status of the source matters. There are at least two potential copyright holders we need to worry about. The scanner, we both agree, has no legitimate claim of copyright. However, that doesn't magic away the claim of the copyright holder of the original document. Again, compare: I pick up the book next to me, and scan a couple of pages. Sure, I have no legitimate claim of copyright, but that doesn't mean that the image is public domain- the book's author/publisher(/translator/whatever) can still claim copyright. If I photographed a painting, or recorded a song off the radio or whatever, I wouldn't be able to say "I think the copyright status of the source doesn't matter, it's about this particular image [or recording], which has no creative elements in itself (and as such no copyright may arise).". J Milburn (talk) 10:51, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The US copyright law does not extend to simple information like this which doesn't reach the threshold of originality. Per Copyright.gov: "Several categories of material are generally not eligible for federal copyright protection. These include among others titles, names, short phrases, and slogans... mere listings of ingredients or contents, works consisting entirely of information that is common property and containing no original authorship (for example: standard calendars, height and weight charts, tape measures and rulers, and lists or tables taken from public documents or other common sources)". Brandmeistertalk12:20, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Odd how you're going back and forth with your arguments. First you tried arguing that the copyright of the underlying work didn't matter (!), now you're arguing that this would not be copyrighted because of a completely different concept. Regarding the newest argument you've brought up, it's enough text that I'd feel uncomfortable with it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:36, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Crisco. Brandmeister: The document you've just cited would does indicate that this may be PD, but this is drifting dangerously into IANAL territory. If we copy-pasted that amount of text from another website, it'd be reverted straight away as a copyvio: we can't really call the text free just because it happens to be in an image. J Milburn (talk) 00:18, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Whether it's one page or 100 pages is irrelevant; a single page is as copyrightable as a book. As for "I have yet to see a proof, not mere assumptions that this text is indeed copyrighted.": That's not how it works- we assume things are copyrighted until we see otherwise. We don't assume things are public domain and then ask anyone concerned to provide proof that they aren't. There's no assumption of public domain status. (Also, it's nothing to do with Bridgemen v. Corel; you're again conflating two separate issues. We're not saying that the person scanning this has a copyright claim- in the US, I suspect they do not. We're saying that the creator of the programme has a copyright claim.) J Milburn (talk) 08:24, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, since it's basically our concern to evaluate the copyright status of the file through existing laws, to me the US copyright law is sufficiently clear in this case. Dixi. Brandmeistertalk13:25, 27 August 2013 (UTC)][reply]
Completely unhelpful. To me, it's pretty clear that this isn't in the public domain. text is copyrightable. We have now reached a completely useless impasse, and, as you're unwilling to discuss it further, no progress can be made. Unless one of us happens to be a copyright lawyer, I don't think we have any business having this conversation anyway. J Milburn (talk) 17:48, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. In my opinion this picture would be of considerably greater value if the edges of the programme were visible (against a suitable background), so that its physical form was clearer. Also, it is unclear whether the "print-though" is visible to the this extent on the original or is an artefact of the scanning process. 86.167.19.165 (talk) 02:05, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - There's too much content for it to be eligible under PD-Text, but it probably falls under {{PD-US-no notice}} or {{PD-US-not renewed}}. That said, I do not think this image adds significantly to the article - does this add something to the article that words alone cannot express? Is there any distinguishing design features of the program? I don't think so. - hahnchen11:37, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I just re-read that and finally saw the rule. "It is preferable to wait a reasonable period of time (at least 7 days) after the image is added to the article before nominating it, though this may be ignored in obvious cases". One might make the case that such a clean picture is so far superior to the previous version (File:The Rookery Building court (Chicago, IL).jpg) with random pedestrians in the picture as to be an obvious case. Someone might want to crop out the black stairs from the prior picture, but the entire prior picture needed to be replaced. However, I am more than willing to put this on hold if that is desired.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 05:49, 17 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This is a nicely executed image with EV, but the front-on composition seems inferior to angled views such as File:Chicago rookery hall entree.jpg in depicting the overall appearance of the room. Also, it is possible to ask the building's staff to temporarily remove the warning sign from the stairs? - it detracts from the image. Nick-D (talk) 23:57, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment picture quality is just great, but isn't the tree branch on the right side is a bit distracting? As I saw this pic for the first time, this immediately caught my attention.Nikhil(talk) 00:25, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
A crop would be possible, but I think (I may be wrong, of course), that a crop which eliminates the branch altogether would be too close, and one which gets rid of half of it may have the same issues. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:50, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support Because why should we limit ourselves to boring human pornography? (Or, more serioulsly, because it's a good, encyclopedic image showing an important bird behaviour.) Adam Cuerden(talk)13:34, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – SVG diagram of the internal anatomy of an adult male C. elegans
Reason
Image meets all of the criteria for an SVG diagram (high-quality, pleasing color contrast, clarity of composition, accuracy and technical correctness of contents, etc.), including an avoidance of raster components and the extensive use of 4-tiered layering to create subtle SVG shading effects. Also, image contains complex layer-composition allowing the intestine and vas deferens to appear to "switch" positions as occurs in the actual worm (i.e., the intestine, which is located on the animal's right for most of its posterior length, switches to its dorsal side at its terminus-- this illustration captures this switch, which is very difficult to accurately render as a layered SVG diagram). Image is currently rendering correctly in Google Chrome 23.0.1271.97m-- please notify nominator if any other browser has difficulty. This image is a sequel to a previous Wikipedia featured picture of a hermaphrodite version of the same animal: Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/C elegans. Accuracy of diagram may be verified at the Wormatlas.
Support Looks good. I did some research with this worm, but only other half, can't attest to the accuracy on the bottom half, but a cursory glance looks accurate. Mattximus (talk) 14:59, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support - this is an excellent, textbook-quality diagram. About the only real criticism is that the anterior section probably could be included, but that's a minor quibble, and is presumably skipped to avoid redundancy with the other diagrams. Adam Cuerden(talk)17:20, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comments - I am confused while the size marker on the left goes beyond the bottom of the tail, and why it doesn't go to the top; whether 'post meiotic spermatids' should be hyphernated; also as someone who doesn't know anything about the topic, the val deferens/seminal vesicle border doesn't seem to be anything - is that right? Grandiose(me, talk, contribs) 21:05, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Several changes: first, the entire animal is now illustrated, head to tail, as per Adam's suggestion. Also, to go along with this, the size marker has been expanded and stretches the entire length of the body, no more and no less. 'Post meiotic spermatids' definitely requires a hyphen, and it has now been added. Lastly, the border between the seminal vesicle and the vas deferens is meant to be shown as a hollow cutout-- the entire pink area, along with the two distal tip cells, is considered the 'somatic gonad', but I could not find a way to indicate this 3-part fact without creating visual confusion-- the seminal vesicle is the anterior portion of the somatic gonad adjoining the vas deferens, and holds the spermatids; it also contains part of the lumen through which the spermatids are ejected during sex with a hermaphrodite. This portion of lumen does not appear to be considered the 'lumen of the seminal vesicle', though that is where it is located. If you have suggestions on how I might better illustrate this arrangement, please let me know and I will gladly take a shot at it. KDS4444Talk07:52, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
KDS4444 asked me to update my comments, but the comments weren't that significant. I think the current version is better than the nominated version, and if there is any issue I'm happy to support. Grandiose(me, talk, contribs) 12:42, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I'm wondering if the use of the tilde to indicate approximation (~0.75mm) is considered technically correct in such contexts. I usually think ≈ is the more appropriate symbol, but I'd understand if ~ is preferable due to it being in ASCII, font support, etc. --Paul_012 (talk) 06:35, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You have made me question my thinking here, Paul_012. The Wikipedia article isn't even much help. But I have now consulted with a mathematician friend, and he tells me that ≈ usually denotes precise approximation whereas ~ denotes rough approximation as well as many other things— i.e., ≈ is used in very specific circumstances to indicate very specific but still approximate things, and ~ is used in much broader circumstances to indicate values of lesser precision, among other uses. Given this, and given that my scale is not meant to suggest any precision of estimation beyond the fact that the male form is consistently somewhat shorter/ smaller than the hermaphrodite (which itself is ~1 mm in length) I am going to say that the use of the tilde here is maybe the correct one... though the use of ≈ might not be incorrect! How does that sound?? KDS4444Talk18:45, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
High quality photograph, good resolution, and very high EV. One of the best, if not the best, images of tornado damage on Wikipedia. Meets criteria 4 and 6 since it was created by FEMA. Was rejected last time with a request for a crop and to wait and see if the image stuck in the articles.
Support, prefer uncropped - Good resolution, good quality. Uncropped version allows us to see that it's not just this house which was destroyed (note the additional debris in the background) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:25, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support, Prefer Original - I actually prefer the original here. I completely understand the addition of the uncropped version, however aesthetically I just prefer the original without the bold colours on the right hand side of the image being a distraction. JFitch(talk)00:31, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – A brisk busy evening on Cannery Row.Other version Here is the version without the car moving through the image
Reason
High resolution, high EV. Natural light, car light to depict movement as part of telling the story of an evening on Cannery Row, Monterey California. One of the best images illustrating this well known street.
Yes, I think the straighter version is better. I don't mind the car. As I write, there are two pictures both labelled "original", which I think should be changed else it could get confusing. 81.159.107.52 (talk) 23:42, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Painting of Silver Horn, an important Kiowa ledger artist. Silver Horn's ledger drawings provide important insight into Kiowa culture, including warfare and warrior culture, clothing, dance, courtship, hunting, and everyday life among the Kiowa.
Reason
Large and high quality. The painting shows an important person in Kiowa history and depicts traditional Kiowa clothing.
Comment Looks very blurry, and considering the size of this image (4,161 × 6,400 pixels), image size is on the low side. Otherwise quite interesting, and to be honest I'd never heard of ledger drawings. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:29, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support, nice find. I added it to Burbank's article, since it's the best scan one of his paintings we have, and cleaned up the caption here a little. This was a popular style of painting and influential for views of Native Americans after 1900. Chick Bowen02:00, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Landscape with quinoa (Chenopodium quinoa), Cachilaya, Bolivia, Province La Paz, Lake Titicaca seen in background.
Reason
The image composition is perfect: a landscape full with colourful quinoa plants, with the beautiful Lake Titicaca at the background. It creates the appreciation of the Bolivian farmers' work in meeting the world demand on quinoa.
Oppose per Tomer T, strange indeed. Also, uploader may not necessarily be copyright holder? User_talk:Groovepup Not accusing user of anything, but I think a little more verification would be nice. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies18:56, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – A clickable Euler diagram showing the relationships between various multinational European organizations and agreements.Alt1– Re organised but information should be the same.
Reason
Because it is an exceptionally concise representation of the information in the article, and instantly conveys a great deal of information that would otherwise take much longer to read. Furthermore, on the Schengen_Area page, it contains dynamic links to a number of different pages for further investigation. It also intuitively shows the relationship between several equally important, yet disparate sociopolitical entities.
I thought that the idea was good but the execution could be improved so I've created Alt1. How does this work, if the alt is popular? It isn't used in any articles at the moment. I can re-add the dark blue background if preferred. Grandiose(me, talk, contribs) 20:08, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I like the rectangular version, but the text, flags and boxes aren't properly aligned. Also, are wavy flag images better than rectangular ones? --Paul_012 (talk) 06:25, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Oversaturated (saturation +25, vibrance +12 in lightroom according to exif) and wrong colour profile for web JPG ("ProPhoto RGB" is only suitable for 16-bit file formats). Colin°Talk12:01, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As someone who is not big on photographic skills, I understand the oversaturation, but for the record - colour profiles? Does it make a big difference? Would you oppose on it alone? (Colin) Grandiose(me, talk, contribs) 09:51, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I would certainly oppose the use of "ProPhoto RGB" in an JPG and strongly discourage the use of "AdobeRGB" for Wikipedia/Commons. The colourspace is what maps the 0..255 values of RGB into actual red/green/blue hues you see on your monitor, or the ink chosen by a printer. Typically browsers and OSs are dumb and can only really handle "sRGB" colourspace reliably, as can nearly all computer monitors. Pro "wide gamut" monitors can display AdobeRGB, but generally you'll only see that colourspace properly when viewing with a pro image viewer like Lightroom or Photoshop. The "ProPhoto RGB" colourspace is one designed for internal use within a graphics tool, or for passing 16-bit TIFF files between pro photo tools. It is so huge that the RGB primaries are actually outside of the visible spectrum for humans, let alone something you could display or print. Because it is so huge, expressing it in a measly 8-bit JPG is asking for trouble like colour banding in the sky or on skin tones. ProPhotoRGB also has a different "gamma" (brightness curve) and other less important aspects. The AdobeRGB colourspace is really best used for photographer's shooting for print only. For the web, all our JPGs should be sRGB and should embed this colourspace within them. That's the only way to be sure that you and I are seeing the same shade of red/green/blue. Many browsers will not handle ProPhoto RGB properly and interpret it as sRGB, thus showing completely the wrong colours. The difference for AdobeRGB is more subtle but when displayed incorrectly, you'll see dull reds typically. See this old article. Colin°Talk10:28, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I appreciate the skill in making this picture, but, for me, it seems too dark for a daytime shot, and not dark enough for an evening/nighttime shot, with the result that it ends up just looking a bit dingy. 81.159.109.215 (talk) 19:24, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose due to tight crop. I disagree with 81.159.109.215 that it is poor lighting; twilight is a perfect time for photography. May I suggest creating 100 pixels or so of fake sky at the top? -- King of♥♦♣ ♠ 17:53, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I like the addition of sky, but not the darkened sky behind the tallest part of the building (tower on the right). – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies19:35, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The creation of the new strip of sky seems to have introduced some very faint artefacts around the topmost point of the building. Perhaps it's referring to that. 86.148.155.23 (talk) 02:11, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I saw one bit of discolouration at the tip of the topmost grey spire (have fixed it on my copy). I'll upload that, maybe that's what Keraunoscopia means. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:29, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – A 15th-century linen wrap showing two scenes from Der Busant, a 12-century German poem said to have influenced Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream
Reason
High quality scan of an interesting linen warp, showing scenes from a notable poem. (Actually, this image impressed me enough to have me write the article with a couple German speakers)
Support nice scan and interesting content. As an aside, it's a shame that the article that it is found in is essentially orphaned, I don't see this on the featured picture criteria so it's not a problem, I just feel it deserves more recognition through linking. Mattximus (talk) 18:47, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - The article Pattern (architecture) is not an easy read for the initiated, but it sounds like more of a pattern for architecture in a fashion/furniture sense (i.e. repeated across many objects) than pattern in the "repeated unit in the same object" sense. Could someone clarify whether the usage is appropriate there? Grandiose(me, talk, contribs) 13:39, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with you. That article is talking about a rather different kind of "pattern" -- the kind you might find in a "pattern book" full of design ideas that you can copy and reuse. The picture does not seem relevant to that article. 81.159.109.215 (talk) 19:31, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The pattern article is full of images all of which could be replaced with any number of others. The regular pattern of windows here is not special or original (most office blocks have regular windows) though the colours here are pleasing and I supported the image at Commons. But this image illustrates only the "structures such as windows can be repeated horizontally and vertically" sentence: one sentence in one paragraph in one section. One could discuss and illustrate lots of different other visual patterns in architecture such as columns, or brickwork, or tiling, and I'm surprised we don't have an article on the subject (the one discussed above is not about visual patterns). So although this is a great picture, I think the EV is very low. Colin°Talk11:55, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support Though I wish it didn't have the appearance of a slightly frozen smile, as if the photographer waited a little too long before snapping the photo. Adam Cuerden(talk)18:31, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Important person in the history of medicine, surprisingly good quality photo. I just replaced the previous lead image in Louis Pasteur with this one because the image size is much larger and I think the composition is better. This image was already in the article but further down.
I hate to say this, but... the restored version really doesn't go far enough. The top of his hairline has a brown spot, which can't be part of the original photograph, and there's dust marks in the lower left area, as well as right and left of the head. I'd rather not promote a partial restoration, when a little more work would get us there, but it is better than the original, so I can't support that either. It's a JPEG, too, or I'd just edit Crisco's myself - but, sadly, I know that editing JPEGs repeatedly rapidly leads to unusable files. 'Reluctant oppose for the moment' Adam Cuerden(talk)18:22, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, Adam Cuerden, I take all the blame for this: my original upload had that dust removed, but when I reinserted the button hole it seems I was working off a partially restored version instead of the wholly restored version. Fixed. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:01, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I am now delighted to Support alt, and hope that me reviewing my conditional slightly after the time won't be held against this image. Firefox was messing up. Adam Cuerden(talk)13:26, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – A – Cervical or Neck Bones (7 in number). B – Dorsal or Thoracic Bones (13 in number, each bearing a rib). C – Lumbar Bones (7 in number).D – Sacral Bones (3 in number). E – Caudal or Tail Bones (20 to 23 in number).
Reason
As per Featured picture criteria,
Colour selections to illustrate the drawing seem ok to me.
This diagram perfectly illustrate the encyclopedic article associated with it.
It has a free license
Although this image is not the leading image in the article, but it adds significant value to the article by providing a list of elements in the skeleton.
Comment I'm not sure what advantage the coloured letters have. Why not simply write what that section of vertebrae is called? I would like to keep the same colours there for ease of distinction, just the letters seem like a needless additional step. Mattximus (talk) 20:31, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree. Same colour cannot distinct something. And to me numbers are like appendix of a book, if I were an expert in that field then that might not be necessary. Godhulii 1985 (talk) 19:11, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - in the past, my SVGs have been opposed on the grounds that the key is not present in the image itself. This isn't a standard I myself support, but I think it's worth noting. The idea bheind the opposition is that the image (as it would be shared, copied etc.) is not useful in itself. Also I think the colour is distracting, given that I don't think it adds much but it does make the spine look rather different to the other bones, and thus the joint with #26 look strange. Grandiose(me, talk, contribs) 13:37, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Alt, without colour labelling of the spine sections
Comment: I also think the colour distracts from the whole image somewhat, and overemphasises the spine in an image showing the whole skeleton. We seem to have another version (by the same author) without the colour, which I've added as an alt. Also, AFAIK the ischium is part of the pelvis. Should it labelled separately as it is? I'm not quite sure about the 2D perspective showing only half the ribs but four limbs. --Paul_012 (talk) 21:51, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support And I preferred the image with the colors— they were neither garish nor obtrusive, and helped convey important information about the content of the image. The image is well-worth supporting even without them, but I do not think it has been at all improved by being converted to a b&w image when the color that was used in the previous version was actually helpful for understanding the illustration. In any case, the image gets my wholehearted support! Also, I think the concern about the illustration of only half of the ribs but all four legs does not warrant consideration— this picture has quality that makes it look like it could have come from a veterinarian's text book, and I am pretty sure that no one is going to be confused by the lack of the second set of ribs which would do nothing to improve the image and might even make it more confusing. KDS4444Talk00:37, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, but with a caveat - this is an SVG. There's no need to make people cross-reference a key, the whole reason we use SVGs for these diagrams is that, in theory, they allow any language to be edited in. For English Wikipedia, I can't see how not putting the information on the image helps in any way; I don't think it's helpful to make people refer to a key several dozen times just to understand the information presented. That said, so long as a little care's taken with the text layout, I'd gladly support a version that loses the need to use a key. Adam Cuerden(talk)18:33, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'd add a line between the coloured boxes, though, to help distinguish it for colour blind people. They're rather similar brightnesses. Actually, maybe the alt, with a little, more subtle colour added? Adam Cuerden(talk)18:36, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Reluctant oppose That kind of cutting-off just doesn't seem to allow us to declare this amongst the best images on Wikipedia. This is why I wish more people knew about Hugin... Adam Cuerden(talk)13:30, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose It's not you. It's as if every molecule in the frame were fused together. It gives me the creeps, it's not natural. Over-NR? – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies16:48, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Why is that so bad when other manipulations, such as inventing new bits of sky, removing unwanted objects, distorting perspective, and so on, seem to be permitted? For a supposedly factual picture, I think that changing the actual content is "worse" than fiddling a bit with the colour balance. 81.159.110.248 (talk) 03:00, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, OK. I would point out, though, that according to the shadows the sun is low in the sky, and I believe that this is contributing to the lighting effect and to the colours, making the colours seem deeper and warmer. 86.169.36.168 (talk) 13:03, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - There's enough headroom for a large bird to land on his head. I don't like the pose either, looks like a photograph that would be snapped in between actual shots. JFitch(talk)16:33, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You can criticize the photograph but try to avoid teasing comments on the object, especially a public figure.
122.174.193.42, there is nothing about the subject there. A crop can handle the headroom issues, although I agree that the pose is a bit improper. I rather like this or this pose (although the latter could use a crop).
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Original – Ida B. Wells was an American journalist and pamphleteer, born into slavery, who became an influential activist against lynching.Alt 1 - restoration
Reason
Good scan of a good portrait, which captures a certain elegant confidence also reflected in Wells's writing. I made literally six edits of a few pixels each--some speckles immediately around the face. Since there is no detail in the background I don't think the remaining spots there do anything other than appropriately to mark the print's age. I would cheerfully support also the uncropped, unedited version if there's interest in that, since it gives a nice example of this kind of commercial portrait print, but it's not currently in use.
Support either, although I'm not sure what the purpose of the saturation decrease was. Yes, the paper will have darkened with time, but the decrease also (very slightly) affects the tone of her skin and dress. It's pretty subtle, though. Chick Bowen19:24, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
My experience is that things tend to come out a little over-saturated when scanned, and we know Google Art isn't perfect with colours. It's a judgement call, of course. Adam Cuerden(talk)13:32, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Alt 1 uploaded, Support Alt 1. It's a slightly different crop (nearer the original photographic card's - the edges weren't quite square so I couldn't get it perfect, but this is nearer) But it's not excessively different. I also pulled back the saturation just slightly. Adam Cuerden(talk)05:34, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Still, it's not like we can retake. If I had to guess, it's small enough that it could well just be her breathing given the long time of the shot and the complexity of the shirt (probably a dress, really) Adam Cuerden(talk)07:16, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
support alt1: Understatement and a half on the retake. Since this still in focus generally, and we're not using the image in an article about fashion, I still support alt. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:22, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, also, it's not visible even at 1500px wide, so I don't imagine the problem would be visible at the original size of the photograph.
Support alt1 This is an amazing picture. I took a very close look at the motion blur around her right shoulder— almost certainly the product of breathing. I even took a quick shot at seeing if such a problem was at all correctable. Turns out that, at least with my skill set, it is not. What is great is that the rest of the image is so clear, especially considering the era in which it was taken. Other portraits from this time period of this clarity are extremely rare, and concerns about the motion blur should be disregarded just as a hypothetical complaint that it is not in color: it is beautiful in b&w, and the motion blur is a trivial event. This woman held incredibly still for this picture, and the photographer did an excellent job of taking it. It is well-worth being a Wikipedia featured picture. KDS4444 (diff) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:44, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Single-Handed, Charles Marion Russell 1912. The painting shows a shows a lone Mounted Police attempting to arrest a Blood warrior at a Blood village probably in Alberta or Saskatchewan.
Reason
A large, colourful, and high quality image that shows a lone Mounted Police attempting to arrest a Blood warrior. Though the relationship between the police and the Blackfoot was largely peaceful the Mounted Police imposed laws on the Blackfoot (such as no raiding other tribes) which they found intrusive and hard to understand. The painting also shows traditional Blackfoot clothing, tipis, and even dance. The painter, Charles Marion Russell spent a lot of time with the Blood (Kainai) tribe in Alberta. The Blood are one of three large tribes that make up the Blackfoot Confederacy, a large and powerful alliance that ruled the northern plains and remains united today with reservations in Alberta and Montana.
Question The policeman is holding a gun to the head of one of the Indian men - is this really "peaceful"? It looks more like some kind of bullying. Also, this image was added to the only articles it is currently in yesterday, so it is probably too early to assess whether it is a stable part of these articles. I also question the factual accuracy of this painting - it looks like colonial-era propaganda with noble savages going about their quaint ways while a noble law man rides among them. Nick-D (talk) 00:11, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If you look at other paintings by Charles Marion Russell you will see that he not only painted Indians in peaceful scenes but also painted scenes of warfare with other tribes, settlers, and soldiers. Russell himself was very critical of the colonization of the west. Therefore I don't think your fears of propaganda are grounded in reality. As far as historical accuracy the painting is very accurate, the dress of the natives is what they wore at that time and the Blackfoot did indeed have peaceful relations with the Canadian government (but not with the American gov). To me it looks like the policemen is offering a trade for the warriors rifle, it seems unlikely one soldier would threaten an armed warrior in the warrior's own camp surrounded by other warriors. MatGTAM (talk) 5:11, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
If he's offering a trade then it is a very unfortunate composition! Surely the artist would have noticed that the gun was pointing straight at the guy's head? 86.160.215.210 (talk) 11:56, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
So I did some further digging a found a description for the painting that says it shows a lone police officer attempting to arrest a defiant Blood (Kainai) warrior. So it looks like its not really a peaceful encounter at all. Never the less I don't think that it detracts from the overall quality of this image which still shows important aspects of Blackfoot life such as clothing, dance, etc. I updated the descriptions for the image on the articles in which it appears. MatGTAM (talk) 4:17, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
I am not knowledgeable about this topic. However, I do find this depiction somewhat odd. Although one or two bystanders seem to be showing a mild interest, there generally seems to be far less of a general hostile reaction than one would expect in the circumstance. 86.160.215.210 (talk) 20:41, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Nototropis falcatus is a species of amphipod crustacean with a range from northern Norway to the west coast of Ireland, including the North Sea
This reproduction is permitted under the Australian Copyright Act, sections 65–68, which states, in pertinent part, making a photograph of sculpture and works of artistic craftsmanship situated, in a public place, or in premises open to the public, is not an infringement of the work.GBS2 (talk) 09:20, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
True about the de novo interpretation. Although this is indeed interesting, and the framing is decent, the background is distracting from this as a coat of arms. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:02, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Swami Vivekananda in London in December 1896
Reason
Vivekananda went to U.S. in 1893 and then moved to England in 1895. Though many photos of Vivekananda were taken at this time, only few photos were printed in color (mostly for promoting and using in posters, billboards), such as File:Swami Vivekananda 1893 Scanned Image.jpg. The image nominated here was taken in 1896
"Encyclopedic value" - how much the image contributes to the reader's understanding of the topic. The image's omission from the Swami Vivekananda article itself means that this is not clear. Grandiose(me, talk, contribs) 09:48, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That makes sense- I think this nomination is a little premature. When you have the image securely placed in an article where it is adding value, then the image could be nominated here. J Milburn (talk) 10:23, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose until such time as encyclopedic value of this image is fixed (i.e. it is stable in a more pertinent article). Still curious about the lighting as well. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:09, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose - Other than good resolution I can't see what else this has going for it. The image, whilst good, isn't pinsharp. Also I can appreciate the value of an action shot, however this is a very awkward looking moment to catch a tennis player. Being such a recent photograph would also lead me to believe that there will be plenty of opportunity to acquire something better. JFitch(talk)21:20, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This is beautiful, and I would like to support, but first I'm wondering why the image was cropped from the original? Does the uncropped version not have a little better framing by adding some room to the bottom? Mattximus (talk) 16:02, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Oban is a busy port serving the islands. This high-resolution view shows how Oban bay is sheltered by Kerrera, and includes a number of landmarks in the town including the rail and ferry terminals, the north harbour, marina and St Columba's Cathedral. The Commons image has annotations. Sorry the weather isn't sunnier, but this is absolutely typical for Oban. -- Colin°Talk11:50, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment beautiful picture, but I can't help but wonder if the picture would give a better view of Oban if it were taken from the other side of the body of water. It feels that we are looking at the backs of all the buildings. Just my instinct, there could very well be a good reason it was taken from this side. Mattximus (talk) 15:10, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There are lots viewpoints with their merits. Oban isn't imo the most attractive town. It is known as the "gateway to Islands" - in other words, people go there in order to get to somewhere else. And this viewpoint looks out to the "somewhere else". Colin°Talk15:49, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Sunset at Montmajour, an 1888 oil landscape by the Dutch artist Vincent van Gogh which was lost, then doubted, then confirmed, then challenged Lugo
Reason
It's on ITN? Oh, right. High resolution, great detail, good quality, and an interesting backstory
I don't understand "then challenged [by?] Lugo"; I can't find a reference to what or who Lugo is in the article. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies20:58, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Lol, it's a very oblique in joke. This painting was on the main page at ITN, and the poster boy there is Fernando Lugo. "Challenged Lugo" is a way of saying it was on the MP and could have beaten Lugo's record of 10 days at ITN. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:49, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
This is my first FP nomination, so if I've gotten any of this horribly wrong, please let me know. The image is slightly under the recommended resolution, but I believe it fulfills all the other requirements aptly. The subject is sharply presented with a relevant background image of the White House Briefing Room, there are no other photos of Socks that match the unique nature and quality of this photo, it is in the public domain, has a good description, is verifiably represented in the article, and has not been inappropriately manipulated.
Oppose Resolution is well below the minimum standards. Sorry. .My oppose was based on the 598X447 image. I didn't check that a higher res pic was uploaded. I think the current resolution can be excepted from the min. resolution criteria IMO. So I'll change my vote to Support.Nikhil (talk) 11:41, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Opposing on the basis of resolution alone doesn't really seem fair given the other qualities. The details in the photo are clear enough given its subject. What is the purpose of a resolution that most monitors probably can't even view full-screen?I, JethroBTdrop me a line20:09, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That's a terrible argument, I'm afraid. Print needs a higher resolution than monitors, and Socks himself is only part of the image.
Nonetheless, Support. Because I don't think there's likely to be significantly more detail in the original, given film grain and the standard camera quality of the time. Adam Cuerden(talk)23:02, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support - I too can look past the specific image-size requirements for an image like this. I actually think it is a wonderful capture, happily supporting this. JFitch(talk)23:41, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support - As the subject is deceased, there is no chance of getting a higher quality image. It appears consensus is in favour of allowing the lower resolution in this instance, which is alright with me. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:00, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Dry grass perhaps or may be the grass may have been mowed by the players' running. I can't really tell what that black thing is. Nikhil (talk) 17:05, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I like the escalator, and am not really worried about the blown highlights - they're mostly unavoidable in an image like this, where it's a preview tour, and so you only get one chance to photograph the library pristine and empty.... But I question whether pristine and empty is actually desireable in a building intended to be a public space. A few people in the image and it would feel more natural, so I'd rather see another try. Adam Cuerden(talk)16:28, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support, both showing the atmosphere and architecture of the place, and almost abstract art, - closer to the subject of a library than the outside view that graced the Main page for several days. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:29, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
High quality, very high EV (greater EV viewed as a set). This 24-image set nomination is a complete type set of U.S. Fractional Currency representing each significant design change. The United States issued Fractional currency between 1862 and 1876 in denominations of 3, 5, 10, 15, 25, and 50 cents. Across the five issuing periods paper quality was improved to prevent destruction and designs changed as anti-counterfeiting measures were put in place. Sizes range from roughly 66 x 41 mm to 110 x 54 mm. Captions include: denomination, catalog number, and person or vignette depicted. (I hope this is an acceptable way to present this kind of nomination).
Comment – images have not been in place for 7 days, but were added after nearly 3 weeks of unopposed talk page notice. If this is problematic we can suspend the nomination. Otherwise…
Comment. I mentioned this once before I think, and maybe it's some kind of convention, but I don't like the black. The black borders dominate the impression in an unappealing way, and always remind me of obituary notices. A less severe colour that nevertheless contrasts with the edges of the notes would be better in my opinion. 86.160.84.113 (talk) 17:31, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I do remember this coming up once before. It is a general (though not absolute) convention to have a black background. These images are part of a very large batch created at roughly the same time, all with black backgrounds. Thanks-Godot13 (talk) 20:34, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The black backgrounds seem to be pretty standard for currency obverse/reverse images. It helps to clearly define the borders of the banknote. Rreagan007 (talk) 21:41, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support as author. Though not absolutely crisp, I think focus and DOF are sufficient for an FP, taking into account the difficulties of taking pictures of moving objects (as well because of waves as because of the animal being alive) in a rockpool. Lycaon (talk) 05:18, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Vivekananda Rock Memorial
Reason
This is a wonderful image of Vivekananda Rock Memorial. Vivekananda Rock Memorial was established in 1962, in Vivekananda's birth centenary year. And this year is being celebrated as golden jubilee year of the memorial and 150th birth anniversary of Vivekananda.
I had the same question. But looking at some YouTube videos it appears that direction of fire isn't a strict requirement, and there are many variants. Perhaps the article shouldn't explicitly say that firing has to be into the sky? --Paul_012 (talk) 22:01, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support What an action moment. In the article it is said that only one person shoot at a time but here two guns are having flames, a perfect action shot. The background is also catchy and appropriate. Godhulii 1985 (talk) 13:12, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Actually the article says they're trying to shoot simultaneously, so this image likely shows an imperfect performance. I think it's good enough, though. At least it somewhat shows the difficulty of achieving perfect synchronisation. --Paul_012 (talk) 22:01, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This rather casual-looking pose has weak EV as a portrait of an opposition leader who has since become the prime minister Nick-D (talk) 00:29, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I hate to say it, but this photograph of Dr King looks rather snapshotty (he's off center, his hand is so far in front of him that it looks bigger than his head, etc.) so I don't think I can get behind this nomination. Something like this, this, or this, if there were a free version, I could really get behind. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:36, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there, welcome to Wikipedia, and thanks for your nomination. I'm afraid I'm going to have to oppose this nomination; the criteria here at featured picture candidates are very strict. The image is not currently used in any articles on the English Wikipedia, which is a requirement for featured pictures. Also, there is a lot of noise and the sky is overexposed; these are problems which normally mean that images cannot be featured. J Milburn (talk) 17:56, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I remember asking about this on Commons, and the consensus was that posters would typically not have anything on the back side (save money, among others). All the posters I've seen while browsing Doctor Macro (a good several hundred, of which at least a hundred are now on Commons) which do have copyright notices have them on the front. It's so consistent that I can usually tell if there is a copyright notice just by looking at the studio and year (anything by WB released after the mid-1930s, for instance, will have a copyright notice). MGM took much longer to wise up to their responsibilities under the then-new copyright law. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:09, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This is a high-resolution high quality free image that contributes to our understanding of fractal-like images. This recently replaced a lower-quality identical image.
Weak oppose on details, essentially. Firstly I think there could be more indication in the image that this is a progression from the top left downwards (would adding an undivided triangle help? I think so). The fact that the image is a PNG would, I think, be manageable if everything else was perfect, but I do find the dot-matrix type colouring of the triangles off, and, unless it's n optical illusion, doesn't the colouring get darker (the last doesn't appear to have dots at all)? I think also while I understand the arrangement is to help save space, as is the growing size of the triangle, I think the latter is a false economy and arranging them in a square (m.m. if a fifth is added) would be better - keep some lines at least. Grandiose(me, talk, contribs) 10:10, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. The anti-aliasing of the lines seems poor. Also, some of the interior lines very slightly protrude outside the bounding triangles. For normal purposes these are very fussy criticisms, but for a featured picture maybe not. 86.161.61.73 (talk) 12:38, 21 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Looks like a good scan, and though I doubt Cleopatra was that pale I think the value in Cultural depictions and 1658 in art make up for it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:45, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That's quite a bit better than what we've done for some other paintings. Not as big as our scan of the Mona Lisa, sure, but I think the resolution is decent for the size of the painting. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:12, 21 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Short-snouted seahorse on knotted wrack from the Oosthinder banks in the Belgian part of the North Sea. This is a studio (aquarium) shot with some of the original knotted wrack from the haul when and where the seahorse was caught. The hauls are part of a biannual monitoring programme. Note the copepods in the water that form part of its natural diet.
Reason
Good EV, good quality and a reasonable resolution. Also QI, VI and FP in Commons.
Support Image needs to be stable of course, but I don't see that being a problem since the previous image was less than stellar. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies16:59, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Wow. Razor sharp, face well lit, other players in the perfect position--the teammate facing us, the opponent moving away and looking back, and the background hazy enough to not be a distraction but still distinct enough to see individuals. Drmies (talk) 02:26, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose. It isn't a "cross-section" and it isn't a modern undersea cable. This image is quite misleading. This is based on a patent from 1978. Let's have something based on an actual product from this millennium please. -- Colin°Talk10:03, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]